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		<title>By: tehabwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tehabwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, for someone saying it&#039;s impossible to know what they&#039;re doing, you sure list a bunch of things you say they&#039;re doing.

If it weren&#039;t for the anti-American wing-nuts (Republicans and Blue Dog Dems), cutting ugly deals wouldn&#039;t have been necessary.

Every SANE person realizes we can&#039;t continue to allow health care costs to double every few years, and more and more people go without access to healthcare.

I wish they&#039;d gone with the House version for funding, but the compromise you describe seems reasonable -- it isn&#039;t the &quot;union daddies&quot; but union rank-and-file who benefit from the change to taxing &quot;cadillac&quot; plans.

No one is stealing ME blind at the moment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, for someone saying it&#8217;s impossible to know what they&#8217;re doing, you sure list a bunch of things you say they&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the anti-American wing-nuts (Republicans and Blue Dog Dems), cutting ugly deals wouldn&#8217;t have been necessary.</p>
<p>Every SANE person realizes we can&#8217;t continue to allow health care costs to double every few years, and more and more people go without access to healthcare.</p>
<p>I wish they&#8217;d gone with the House version for funding, but the compromise you describe seems reasonable &#8212; it isn&#8217;t the &quot;union daddies&quot; but union rank-and-file who benefit from the change to taxing &quot;cadillac&quot; plans.</p>
<p>No one is stealing ME blind at the moment.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: bmovies60</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmovies60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>756 writes: &quot;If the pubs would try to help our country we would not have this problem. They left us on the precipice of a depression. I wonder why we have FORGOTTEN THAT!&quot;

Pubs are TRYING, but they cant because the Dems have shut them out of the process. It was your precious Democrats that put us on the precipice of a Depression when they refused to do anything about Fannie Mae, even after being asked by Bush well over a dozen times. I wonder why YOU have FORGOTTEN THAT. Interesting the selective amnesia you libs suffer from.

future writes: &quot;These deals would never have had to have been made if Republicans had only voted for the ORIGINAL BILL as it was.&quot;

Interesting how its our fault because we refused to vote for a bad bill. Votes which the Dems didnt NEED. 

&quot;THEY&#039;RE THE ONES WHO REQUESTED PRIVATE CO-OPS that are now causing all the trouble.&quot;

Lie. We didnt request them. The Dems offered them, but we werent accepting those trojan horses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>756 writes: &quot;If the pubs would try to help our country we would not have this problem. They left us on the precipice of a depression. I wonder why we have FORGOTTEN THAT!&quot;</p>
<p>Pubs are TRYING, but they cant because the Dems have shut them out of the process. It was your precious Democrats that put us on the precipice of a Depression when they refused to do anything about Fannie Mae, even after being asked by Bush well over a dozen times. I wonder why YOU have FORGOTTEN THAT. Interesting the selective amnesia you libs suffer from.</p>
<p>future writes: &quot;These deals would never have had to have been made if Republicans had only voted for the ORIGINAL BILL as it was.&quot;</p>
<p>Interesting how its our fault because we refused to vote for a bad bill. Votes which the Dems didnt NEED. </p>
<p>&quot;THEY&#8217;RE THE ONES WHO REQUESTED PRIVATE CO-OPS that are now causing all the trouble.&quot;</p>
<p>Lie. We didnt request them. The Dems offered them, but we werent accepting those trojan horses.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: The fed up matthew™</title>
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		<dc:creator>The fed up matthew™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve went too far with me. As for people that blame republicans for causing democrats to bribe each other that is ridiculous. If the bill was so great no bribes would be needed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve went too far with me. As for people that blame republicans for causing democrats to bribe each other that is ridiculous. If the bill was so great no bribes would be needed.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: David H</title>
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		<dc:creator>David H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...they pay no tax on there cadillac health care until at least 2018, and then they still get a better deal than the rest of us .&quot;

They have the right idea. Join a union. Had right wing &quot;corruption&quot; not busted all the unions we might all be getting a good deal.

&quot;They have done this behind closed doors so we have no idea what they are doing.&quot;

If that&#039;s true, how did you find out about it?

&quot;Liberals have moved to corruption on a scale never before seen.&quot;

LOL. How many wars have they lied us into? How many CIA agents have they outed? How many chiefs of staff have been convicted of obstruction of justice?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;they pay no tax on there cadillac health care until at least 2018, and then they still get a better deal than the rest of us .&quot;</p>
<p>They have the right idea. Join a union. Had right wing &quot;corruption&quot; not busted all the unions we might all be getting a good deal.</p>
<p>&quot;They have done this behind closed doors so we have no idea what they are doing.&quot;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, how did you find out about it?</p>
<p>&quot;Liberals have moved to corruption on a scale never before seen.&quot;</p>
<p>LOL. How many wars have they lied us into? How many CIA agents have they outed? How many chiefs of staff have been convicted of obstruction of justice?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: future</title>
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		<dc:creator>future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These deals would never have had to have been made if Republicans had only voted for the ORIGINAL BILL  as it was.
THEY&#039;RE THE ONES WHO REQUESTED PRIVATE CO-OPS that are now causing all the trouble.
CAN&#039;T YOU EVEN REMEMBER THAT IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m so tired of the lying jackals on Fox TV - they need to lose their licence for being a foreign owned propoganda hate mill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These deals would never have had to have been made if Republicans had only voted for the ORIGINAL BILL  as it was.<br />
THEY&#8217;RE THE ONES WHO REQUESTED PRIVATE CO-OPS that are now causing all the trouble.<br />
CAN&#8217;T YOU EVEN REMEMBER THAT IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO!!!<br /><b>References : </b><br />I&#8217;m so tired of the lying jackals on Fox TV &#8211; they need to lose their licence for being a foreign owned propoganda hate mill.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t like the way we run our country you are free to leave.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like the way we run our country you are free to leave.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: gws35</title>
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		<dc:creator>gws35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are teetering on the brink of tyranny.

Democrats think they can do just anything.

They even spit on the Constitution and think they can get away with it.

But - WHERE&#039;S THE OUTRAGE?

Why aren&#039;t people rising up in mass protest demonstrations?

The dumbing down of America has achieved its objective. The people are sheep.

The public school system is a &quot;useful idiot&quot; factory, churning out ignorant and gullible future criminals who will eagerly jump on the communism bandwagon as soon as it rolls into town.

I know, I used to work as a public high school teacher. It made me sick to watch kids getting churned through the communist indoctrination mill all day long.

And how well it worked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are teetering on the brink of tyranny.</p>
<p>Democrats think they can do just anything.</p>
<p>They even spit on the Constitution and think they can get away with it.</p>
<p>But &#8211; WHERE&#8217;S THE OUTRAGE?</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t people rising up in mass protest demonstrations?</p>
<p>The dumbing down of America has achieved its objective. The people are sheep.</p>
<p>The public school system is a &quot;useful idiot&quot; factory, churning out ignorant and gullible future criminals who will eagerly jump on the communism bandwagon as soon as it rolls into town.</p>
<p>I know, I used to work as a public high school teacher. It made me sick to watch kids getting churned through the communist indoctrination mill all day long.</p>
<p>And how well it worked.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Water Over Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Water Over Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, anyone still defending the current crop of Democrats needs to wake the fk up.

NO SPECIAL INTEREST LEFT BEHIND.........Gotta love corporate welfare!!!!

Let&#039;s recap: No public option, no watered down public option, no medicaid buy-in, and no cheaper drugs due to backroom deal between BIG PHARMA and the WH. Obviously this sell-out to corporate America was not enough to get 60 votes in the Senate. So then they cut the &quot;Louisiana Purchase&quot; with Landrieu and bought her vote for over a hundred million. Then there was the &quot;Cornhusker Kickback&quot; which they used to buy Ben Nelson&#039;s vote for over $100 million. AND NOW they have made a special deal (&quot;Labor Loophole&quot;) to exempt organized labor from the new excise tax on &quot;cadillac&quot; plans. If you happen to be in the middle class and own one of these plans BUT AREN&quot;T in labor union........tough sh*t. And of course Obama flip-flopped on almost every single substantive campaign promise he made as a candidate with regards to healthcare. (1 Transparency, 2 Individual Mandates, 3 Taxes on Cadillac Plans)

Are Democrats really going to try to sell this piece of sh*t as REFORM??

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjZlYzRkNDc2MjkwNTEwM2Q3NTNjNTY0NzZmYWUwOGI=

The nation’s labor unions, according to Congress Daily, have cut a deal with House Democrats: Labor will drop its opposition to the so-called Cadillac tax — an excise tax on high-cost employer-provided health-care plans — if Congress will carve out an exemption for plans provided under collective-bargaining agreements. Even after all the unsavory bargains and rotten deals that have characterized the rush to get this thing passed (the “Louisiana Purchase,” the “Cornhusker Kickback,” etc.) the “Labor Loophole” surely takes the prize. A few Democrats in the Senate already tried this trick and were laughed out of the smoke-filled room, so nakedly obvious was the special-interest favoritism at work. That the Democratic party is seriously reconsidering this deal is a sign of how desperate it has become to pass a bill — any bill — that shoves the federal foot through the waiting-room door.

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1. Obama promised to have healthcare negotiations on C-SPAN......(obviously these negotiations are taking place behind closed doors.........hence the vote buying etc.) To be fair: cameras were allowed to film for a whopping ONE HOUR.

http://www.breitbart.tv/c-span-ceo-white-house-has-allowed-only-one-hour-of-health-care-coverage/

2. Obama campaigned AGAINST a federal mandate for individuals to buy private insurance.........(he now supports it........hmmmm)

&quot;I mean, if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house. The reason they don’t buy a house is they don’t have the money. &quot; -Candidate Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoSnqofelsQ

3. Obama campaigned AGAINST taxing &quot;cadillac plans&quot;...........(he now supports it)

&quot;John McCain calls these plans “Cadillac plans.” Now in some cases, it may be that a corporate CEO is getting too good a deal. But what if you’re a line worker making a good American car like the Cadillac? What if you’re one of the steelworkers who are working right here in Newport News, and you’ve given up wage increases in exchange for a better health care&quot; -Candidate Barack Obama
http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/07/cadillac-flip-flop-obama-was-against-health-plan-tax-before-he-was-for-it/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&amp;feature=player_embedded&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, anyone still defending the current crop of Democrats needs to wake the fk up.</p>
<p>NO SPECIAL INTEREST LEFT BEHIND&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Gotta love corporate welfare!!!!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s recap: No public option, no watered down public option, no medicaid buy-in, and no cheaper drugs due to backroom deal between BIG PHARMA and the WH. Obviously this sell-out to corporate America was not enough to get 60 votes in the Senate. So then they cut the &quot;Louisiana Purchase&quot; with Landrieu and bought her vote for over a hundred million. Then there was the &quot;Cornhusker Kickback&quot; which they used to buy Ben Nelson&#8217;s vote for over $100 million. AND NOW they have made a special deal (&quot;Labor Loophole&quot;) to exempt organized labor from the new excise tax on &quot;cadillac&quot; plans. If you happen to be in the middle class and own one of these plans BUT AREN&quot;T in labor union&#8230;&#8230;..tough sh*t. And of course Obama flip-flopped on almost every single substantive campaign promise he made as a candidate with regards to healthcare. (1 Transparency, 2 Individual Mandates, 3 Taxes on Cadillac Plans)</p>
<p>Are Democrats really going to try to sell this piece of sh*t as REFORM??</p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjZlYzRkNDc2MjkwNTEwM2Q3NTNjNTY0NzZmYWUwOGI" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjZlYzRkNDc2MjkwNTEwM2Q3NTNjNTY0NzZmYWUwOGI</a>=</p>
<p>The nation’s labor unions, according to Congress Daily, have cut a deal with House Democrats: Labor will drop its opposition to the so-called Cadillac tax — an excise tax on high-cost employer-provided health-care plans — if Congress will carve out an exemption for plans provided under collective-bargaining agreements. Even after all the unsavory bargains and rotten deals that have characterized the rush to get this thing passed (the “Louisiana Purchase,” the “Cornhusker Kickback,” etc.) the “Labor Loophole” surely takes the prize. A few Democrats in the Senate already tried this trick and were laughed out of the smoke-filled room, so nakedly obvious was the special-interest favoritism at work. That the Democratic party is seriously reconsidering this deal is a sign of how desperate it has become to pass a bill — any bill — that shoves the federal foot through the waiting-room door.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>1. Obama promised to have healthcare negotiations on C-SPAN&#8230;&#8230;(obviously these negotiations are taking place behind closed doors&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hence the vote buying etc.) To be fair: cameras were allowed to film for a whopping ONE HOUR.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.tv/c-span-ceo-white-house-has-allowed-only-one-hour-of-health-care-coverage/" rel="nofollow">http://www.breitbart.tv/c-span-ceo-white-house-has-allowed-only-one-hour-of-health-care-coverage/</a></p>
<p>2. Obama campaigned AGAINST a federal mandate for individuals to buy private insurance&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;(he now supports it&#8230;&#8230;..hmmmm)</p>
<p>&quot;I mean, if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house. The reason they don’t buy a house is they don’t have the money. &quot; -Candidate Barack Obama<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoSnqofelsQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoSnqofelsQ</a></p>
<p>3. Obama campaigned AGAINST taxing &quot;cadillac plans&quot;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..(he now supports it)</p>
<p>&quot;John McCain calls these plans “Cadillac plans.” Now in some cases, it may be that a corporate CEO is getting too good a deal. But what if you’re a line worker making a good American car like the Cadillac? What if you’re one of the steelworkers who are working right here in Newport News, and you’ve given up wage increases in exchange for a better health care&quot; -Candidate Barack Obama<br />
<a href="http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/07/cadillac-flip-flop-obama-was-against-health-plan-tax-before-he-was-for-it/" rel="nofollow">http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/07/cadillac-flip-flop-obama-was-against-health-plan-tax-before-he-was-for-it/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&#038;feature=player_embedded</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Do your thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do your thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals have moved to corruption on a scale never before seen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals have moved to corruption on a scale never before seen.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker818</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker818</dc:creator>
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		<description>No worries..it wont hold up to the supreme court..it`s all unconstitutional...a Federal bill cannot benefit 1 group or 1 state. So the Nebraska and Louisiana deal will sink the who insurance bill because they are getting deals other states are not. A Federal bill is to affect all people in all states, cant benefit or hinder and 1 group or state&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries..it wont hold up to the supreme court..it`s all unconstitutional&#8230;a Federal bill cannot benefit 1 group or 1 state. So the Nebraska and Louisiana deal will sink the who insurance bill because they are getting deals other states are not. A Federal bill is to affect all people in all states, cant benefit or hinder and 1 group or state<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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